[News] Bow and Mali for many magazine shoots to come

[Mai]

Sorry for your loss Honda. Thats exactly how I feel too. It takes me a long time to get over the initial shock when someone close to me passes away. They say time heals wounds, but it doesnt if its a passing of a loved one. At least thats how it is for me.

But Im saying that in perspective that some say shes behaving this way because she had 70 days to prepare. But honestly, the way he tragically went probably would hit a normal person pretty hard. People handle stress and loss differently and sorry I just dont see that Bow is taking it that hard though, when she knows the cameras are on her and when shes being recorded without knowing. When she should have secluded herself from the media by staying by Pors side, she was with Mali singing and dancing with the reporters. She criticized fans for creating t-shirts to support Mali while Por was sick, saying it was an inappropriate time to do such a thing...yet shes doing magazine shoots and events to exploit her child. Its always the ones that preach that are most guilty of the things they preach.

[mango]

Doing a photoshoot and interviews Doesnt mean the fans and whatever need to stick their cameras in her child's face. It was not right for the media and people to do that to her during the funeral and such. Just because she agreed to photoshoot doesn't mean all privacy a normal person get is out the door. The media is hot on her tail because they are curious about her and the child. However, at the same time they went overboard during the funeral coverage.

[Mai]

What do you mean they have no right? She was the one allowing her child to play on the hospital floors, rolling around and dancing on those floors. She knew fans and reporters are there...if she had a problem with it, she could have simply left that area. She could have stayed in the room with Por. Being a celebrity Im sure that room had all the necessities she could have needed. Or she could have simply left her child at home. Wait Mali was there beacuse her presence could have woken up Por right? Then why wansnt she in the room? She was outside most of the times hanging with the reporters and fans. And she could have easily issued a statement or had her reps let the fans know that although thier support is appreciated, she would rather they stay home and show their support from home.

[shampoo]

I agreed with Honda. She's taking photo shoots and events is acting like she's always been a celebrity. It's almost like she lives a normal life when before she was a nobody. No one even knows publicly she was Por's wife. I think she found greed and wants to capitalize on whatever has passed.

[honda]

If we call it like it is, there would be no debate. It's funny how me and Mai tend to show on debatable topics lol

[Mai]

We just love controversy lol

[ASH30]

I just like reading people's opinions whether I agree with them or not. Even if it's the way out there ones...usually those give me a few chuckles.

[RakLakorn]

What does she has to do to make believe she is still grieving? Wear black clothes? Cry everyday?

Por was already planning to go public with his family before he fell sick. Unfortunately, things took different turn. Bow is not new to ET. She doesn't need to earn money through ET as Por has left enough for them. Maybe she's just trying to divert her attention and keeping herself busy and occupied. How are you sure if someone stays at home for 100 days really grieved while those who don't, didn't? Let's not compare Western and Asian culture. Asians are more supporting and emotional hence Bow and Mali are accepted.

We don't really understand what she's feeling. Por is a great human being. It's not easy to get over his death. She needs to be strong at this time. She's visibly lost weight. Let's not be mean and judge her. Maybe this is how she's coping with his loss

[Mai]

How are you so sure to judge that she's still grieving? It's only the Thai industry that's different, because even the Chinese are more sensitive on the topic of mourning. Let's not stereotype every Asian for being like her. We are not sure that staying home for 100 days means the person is still grieving but at more appropriate that the person is acting it. Her doing Photoshooots a couple of weeks since his death and funeral just doesn't justify her actions even if she is an entertainer, and she's not, so less of a valid reason for her to be doing so.

Why is it not ok for fans to make shirts when Por was sick and now ok for her to use her child for events and shoots? Only difference is she's pocketing the profit.

There was no proof he was planning on going public with her before he fell ill. That's hearsay.

[ashamb]

I just like reading people's opinions whether I agree with them or not. Even if it's the way out there ones...usually those give me a few chuckles.

me too!

and i agreed with honda & mai too... i even asked my mum in law about this and she also said they at least should wait 100 days after death as a sign of respect for the deceased and family however that doesn't mean that we should wear black or stay at home all the time but just grieve/mourn quietly.

[Mai]

It would be the appropriate thing to do. Like you said it's like paying respect to the deceased Ashamb. Just how we offer a moment of silence for the fallen. But her fans will say well her doing this is a sign of respect because it's allowing people to remember Por through his daughter and wife.

Since he has become ill, I have heard all the excuses. It's ok to respect someone's decision...but another thing to make assumptions then paint that person a god. Before it was Por being such a godly figure hence why he wanted to keep his wife and child a secret because he wanted to protect them. They commend him for making the right decision. Then it was Por respecting her decision, because she's the odd woman out in this world who wants to live a secret. Don't call him a God for making the right decision to be secret because he wanted to protect them then change your story to saying he was always proud of them and wanted to go public with them. They would have remained a secret if he had not been sick. Now we can safely say Bow never wanted to stay low profile or to live in secret, she loves the limelight. Proof is in her actions right now.

Anyway she did another photoshoot. Is this her 3rd or 4th? I lost track

[nanthao]

No. I don't think Por was planning to come out To reveal his family anytime soon. A few weeks before he got sick he said in an interview that he wants to have kids first before he gets marry. He also want the kids to be apart of the wedding.

[RakLakorn]

I don't know if Bow is still grieving or not, hence, I'm not judging her. Because I'm not close to her. I'm just a netizen.

And why are we even judging her as though she's committed a crime. People have accepted her and Mali. It's not like she's shoving herself down our throat. Folks are happy to see her. Maybe she has chosen this way (to socialise) to cope with the loss. Moment of silence is different from 100 days of paying respect. Mathematically,it's not the same. If she really loved him, if her feelings are sincere, his soul understands it. She does not need to prove it and stay at home, wear black dress, cry everyday to let Por's soul know how much she misses him.

[Mai]

I will judge her because she is a public figure, end of story. She should at least follow social norms and etiquette. Her doing photoshoot and events like Honda mentioned is not her normal life before he passed away. If it was then that is another story and it still leaves room for criticism. She has no need to come out this early. Was it not you who mentioned that Por left her enough she doesn't have to do this for fininacial reasons? Will it hurt her to stay home for a month? She has been secret for over 3 years. What is her hurry at this point?

There are other ways to cope if youre going to use that excuse this is her way of coping. If youre using the word cope, that means soon shes gonna go under cover again right? I think shes here to stay as long as the industry allows her to stay, so there goes the excuse she only sought publicity to cope. So I stand by my word that this lady loves the limelight no matter what tragedy she is facing. Por was her obstacle and now hes gone. The decisions being made at this point, are hers, not his.

[mango]

I was going to keep silent on this matter but I personally think Mai has a personal attack and dislike for Bow. I don't know if you're his fan and is not liking how is wife is mourning him to your liking but bashing his widow is not the way to go. As a moderator of this forum, I'm disappointed in your strong opinion without facts. All you're using to support your strong dislike about Bow is what you see in pictures, gossips, news. It's not like you're close to him or his family anyway. You said so yourself that you will judge her because she is a public figure. That's all, all your opinions are judged by what you see. First you accused the hospitals for failing to treat him properly without knowing his medical records/treatments, then Por for not disclosing his wife and child to the public, then now his widow for not grieving to your liking, even going as far as commenting on her plastic surgeries. Now you have form this hatred for his widow and all that she is doing, even commenting that she will probably be married in less than a year to someone else. That's not a nice way to talk about someone's widow and the deceased. I do not mind the discussion about what is right and what is wrong but based on your previous post, it seem like you feel wronged that Por didn't disclose his family to people like you, who thinks they have the right to know about it. The thing is, you don't have that right, whether he share his family or not is up to him even if he is a public figure. If you don't like it, then just ignore it for now. I said it before and I'll say it again, it's too soon to judge his wife like this. Give it a year or two. I'm not his fan, I only watched one of his drama but I am sad over his death and I still respect him. I think you're just shock over his death and is taking your anger out towards his wife, for that I will let it slide. But if you want to continue to comment then choose your words carefully. Thank you

[Mai]

Am I suppose to choose my words carefully now? Who made you boss? Thank you for letting it slide, I suppose you are paying my bills so I should fear when you cut me off financially. How dare you not having contributed anything to this forum but opinions and talk like we owe you the world

Its funny how you also stated that if he was your patient you would have done things differently. You ALSO doubted his treatment at this hospital. I had an issue with this hospital since his foot got amputated, I had a reason to feel uneasy because clearly now hes gone.

So why is it ok for you to make the same statements? At least I stick by to my statements and dont keep dancing around. It was you that also claimed why Por kept his family a secret - to protect them, then paraded him a hero when you dont even know the true facts. You didnt just assume why he kept them secret, you actually made it sound like fact. Then praised him for making the right decision. If you had not keep stating your opinions as if they are facts, I woudlnt keep debating with you.

If you dont like what youre reading, then its as simple as not reading this thread. These people are public figures, they pay the price to fame.

[mango]

I didn't say I was your boss. I was merely stating that you should be careful with your words because they are coming out strong as hatred for Bow. But I guess you don't like it when people point it out to you what they see. I never said I doubted his treatments, I said that he was probably in the best care possible but if he was my patient, I would have done this and that based on what I read only. I don't know his treatment therapies because I don't have it in front of me but that's based public reports and what you're saying, I was only expressing my opinion on my own treatment based on my own experience as a doctor.

I said that Por was probably protecting his family, that's why he didn't disclose them to the public. That's his choice. It's people like you who are upset over it. Now that his wife is out in the open, again it's people like you who are upset again. So too bad, nothing seems to be pleasing you at all.

I think you're too upset over this matter and is taking it personally. Even you're attacking me, a guest in your forum. So what????? You have to be right all the time? I'm merely pointing this out so everyone can see what's wrong with your posts. They are all your opinions, which I understand is different from mine but they are very strong words that form one conclusion: that you have a strong hatred for Bow and Por. Now if that's not your intentions, then like I said before, please choose your words carefully to express what you're saying. Geez

[Mai]

Im taking it personally? Youre the one calling me out and attacking me personally. I wonder who is the one taking this personal. If I didnt know better I would assume your Vanda herself because thats how personal youre getting. Please go re-read all your comments. You never stated probably or maybe in your comments, or I think, it was always stated as if they were facts.

As for opinions, this is how Spicy has always been. If you cant handle the heat get out of the kitchen. We are not about to change the dynamics of this forum for one irrelevant member who has done nothing to contribute to this forum and has the audacity to address me personally in a long essay then tell me Im the one taking it personally when I respond. How ironic.

[mango]

No I'm not Vanda herself.

My opinions have always been to be positive, to let people see the postive of his death. Everything you have said has been negative. I guess if that's what your forum is all about, blasting and shit talking then I'm out of here. As human beings, we have to find a balance and listen to both sides, not think about the negative all the time. I guess you enjoy the shit talking and negative that's why you wanted this forum to be that way. It was nice to meet you but if people like me are not welcome then I'll take my opinions elsewhere. I hope you find positive things in your life so you can look at the world positively.

[Mai]

Funny how you turned things around. From personally attacking to acting as if youre such a positive person. From taking it personally to telling me Im taking it personally when youre the one addressing me.

If you had read the rules to this forum then you would undrstand that opinions on stars and public figures are always welcomed. Attacking members and staffs is not welcomed. I highly doubt that the above comment is your last comment. And I highly doubt you wont be refreshing Spicy to see the updates either

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