[News] Bow and Mali for many magazine shoots to come

[dhaf]

what will judgement words that people say will change in Bow's case? guess that what will happen to you when you become a public figure you have to face all sort of judgement along with the good support too that's all what is about , personally i don't care what bow is doing it's her life i can completely ignore it if i don't like it i don't know who she is and i don't have neither right or interest to judge her or tell her what to do and not to do , people support her cause maybe they see things that others doesn't see and maybe they feel things that other doesn't who want to support her good for him who doesn't then they are free , judging her will change nothing it's her life and she is free to live it as she feels and the decision that she will take she will be the only one who will take responsibility of bad or good, if she is gathering for attention and she actually found who give her that attention then good for her it's her business also there is the possibility she may not be like that and she has her own reason and her own way to express herself or deals with things she face all the possibility are open it depends on how you see it and in what you believe and on your way of thinking

[tinav101805]

She probably should have waited longer, but who am I to judge.

I went to my friends funeral and after the funeral they through an after party for the dead.

[Mai]

I highly doubt shes reading at this forum. My comments and other comments saying she should be waiting a little longer than changing her lifestyle from being a secret to being a celebrity, is simply our opinion. But we as the public have the right to judge and give our opinion because she is a public figure. What makes her more special than Clinton, Bush, Obama who has taken criticisms over the year? What makes her so special that shes untouchable? Are we going to her IG to tell her how to live her life? We are not invading her private space.

Just how some are saying we shouldnt tell her how to live her life, which we are not, hence we are at this forum giving our opinions instead of at her IG attacking her....perhaps stop telling us how to live our life, and when to judge and not to judge.

Whats the point in having this forum when you're not allowed to voice your opinions. Obviously some of you disagree with whats being said in this thread, and you're sure not keeping quiet about it, so why is it so hard to accept that some of us will disagree with what shes doing and will also voice our opinions? Please have some common sense.

[shampoo]

Seriously, Bow has no social etiquette. Only the Thais and some fans that make it into such a heroic stuff. I understand giving support for a widow woman but she should know etiquette herself. How long has he been on the ground? Not long and she's parading in the entertainment world. Even Por didn't get this much of events and photoshoot. Talk about taking advantage of the dead.

[honda]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think anyone here is saying Bow needs to wear black, stay home, and cry her eyes out everyday to mourn her husband's death. I'm pretty sure everyone wants her to go back to living her normal life as quick as possible, key word being "normal". Photo shoots and events is not Bow's "normal" life. For someone who wanted privacy and to stay off the radar, her actions here is the complete opposite. Yes, she's not forcing herself down our throats but she does play a part in putting herself out there to be criticized. I think if she would have waited until after the 100 days to accept photo shoots and events, people like me would be more understanding. I'm not saying my opinion is right, but I do have a right to voice my opinion. And yes, at the end of the day it is Bow's life and she has the right to choose how she wants to live it and there is nothing anyone of us can do about it. As viewers, I don't think anyone of us can say for a fact what Bow's reasons are for doing what she is doing. Let's be respectful of one another's opinion and not attack each other.

[Mai]

Honestly, if Por fans didnt drill into us and reminded us in every page of every thread that his reasons for remaining secretive is because he and Bow value privacy, we wouldnt be having this conversation now. They were so certain they spoke about it like it was a known fact. The topic of him keeping his wife and child a secret was DROPPED long ago, but his own fans keep bringing it up and praising him to be the hero to make the right decision while blaming and slamming the media. Every single time I doubted those claims and was vocal about it....and who has proof backing up their comments now? Bows own actions have killed their defense. So when you drill something into someone long enough, of course if proof shows otherwise, be prepared to hear it. Why is it ok to blame the media? But not ok to blame Bow? It seems like fans have put her on a pedestal as if shes untouchable.

[honda]

If Bow wants in the ET business, she and her fans better be ready to some criticism. Fame does not come without a price. Celebs have the right to keep their personal life private, fans/viewers have the right to voice our opinions lol

[RakLakorn]

Yes, I'm the one who said Por has left enough for them. That's why I don't think she is out there for money. As for fame is concerned, she didn't go out and invited the media to capture her and Mali's every moment. It was their (media's) choice. Even now, all the events she's attending, are not she seeked for. Since Thais are sensitive, they are just giving her an oppurtunity to divert her attention (maybe). Just like how the event managers hiring Ploy to support her 2 kids whom daddy Peter abandoned, the event managers are inviting Bow for a change maybe. And the people have accepted them. Maybe Por knew how people are cruel in their judgement so he kept his family a secret.

Are you the one who said were brought up westernised? If so, is that how you think about a widow? That she needs to stay home for a month. Is that mandatory? Let's be broad minded and let her breath. We're in 21st century, those religious beliefs no more mandatory to follow. Like I said before, who are we to judge someone? Bow is now a public figure and not public's property! Let her live please!

I don't think the hospital, the doctors, the authorities were unprofessional in Por's case. If there is anybody to be blamed, it's Por himself. He used to get fever. He took general medicines and was admitted in a small hospital before he was admitted here. By the time the specialists diagnosed, Por was already serious. They tried their best to save him, unforunately it was too late.

P.S. I apologise if I offend you Mai. The members come here because this is a public forum. I felt that it's rude what you stated to the other member Mango. We can respect each others' opinion without disrespecting each other. Thanks

[Mai]

Don't apologize if you intend to offend lol. That makes no sense. Forum rules are forum rules. If she respected my opinion she wouldn't call me out. She called me out for giving my opinion on the topic. And I'm rude for responding? Just because you agree with her points and disagree with mine does not give you the right to attack me, after I posted the rules. At least perhaps I can give her the benefit of the doubt she didn't know the rules. You know them yet you're breaking them. I found her comments bloody rude too, but did I state that?

I have right to voice how I feel, and if you and others don't like it, then ignore it. I have posted the forum rules and if I have to remind people again of the rules I will start to ban members for breaking the rules.Opinions and comments on celebs and stars are allowed. Attacking members and staffs here because of their opinions is not. Consider you all of you warned.

I don't know how many times Honda and myself and many others have to repeat ourselves....we don't expect her to be crying at home or whatever it is. But she should have more class to wait a little bit before seeking publicity

[RakLakorn]

Thanks for reminding me about the rules of this forum which was not necessary. Neither did I attacked/bashed you or for that matter any other member/admin here, nor did I impose my view on others. Just like how you have the right to voice your opinion, others also have the right to voice their opinion. I don't know why are you taking it personally. Voicing an opinion does not mean attacking you personally. How about preach what you follow. If you don't like what others say, you can also ignore it right. Why is it just because we are members, we need to ignore and not talk back while you can do the otherwise. Can you please re-read what I've written and then decide if I attacked you or stated my view. You cannot threaten members in the name of "ban" just to protect your opinion. This is just another entertainment forum for me. I may not have contributed to it in terms of money but have not broken the rule as well. Just because I didn't agree with you, does not mean I broke the rule of the forum. And I didn't support Mango because our opinion is same but because I thought she was being bullied and thought to let you know the same. No wonder Spicy forum is losing members because they cannot say what they want. If they do, they will be threatened.

Now please don't say I attacked you personally. This is my opinion. Before warning me or banning me, let other admins/members who are not biased and are neutral to read my post first. Atleast they might decide if I broke the rule or not. Thanks!

[shampoo]

Honestly, if Por fans didnt drill into us and reminded us in every page of every thread that his reasons for remaining secretive is because he and Bow value privacy, we wouldnt be having this conversation now. They were so certain they spoke about it like it was a known fact. The topic of him keeping his wife and child a secret was DROPPED long ago, but his own fans keep bringing it up and praising him to be the hero to make the right decision while blaming and slamming the media. Every single time I doubted those claims and was vocal about it....and who has proof backing up their comments now? Bows own actions have killed their defense. So when you drill something into someone long enough, of course if proof shows otherwise, be prepared to hear it. Why is it ok to blame the media? But not ok to blame Bow? It seems like fans have put her on a pedestal as if shes untouchable.

I know right and it's not even like Por was Brad Pitt lol. He didn't even leave a legacy. Just because he passed away young and with a deadly fever, we have to look at them as God? I feel sad and bad for his family but that's like a totally different story. The way Bow is parading herself out with events and photoshoots is more like this girl has such a thick face. Lol like bloody thick. She has no shame. I think she's still doing all this because no Thai fans has gone criticizing her to her face. Theyre a joke.

Thanks for reminding me about the rules of this forum which was not necessary. Neither did I attacked/bashed you or for that matter any other member/admin here, nor did I impose my view on others. Just like how you have the right to voice your opinion, others also have the right to voice their opinion. I don't know why are you taking it personally. Voicing an opinion does not mean attacking you personally. How about preach what you follow. If you don't like what others say, you can also ignore it right. Why is it just because we are members, we need to ignore and not talk back while you can do the otherwise. Can you please re-read what I've written and then decide if I attacked you or stated my view. You cannot threaten members in the name of "ban" just to protect your opinion. This is just another entertainment forum for me. I may not have contributed to it in terms of money but have not broken the rule as well. Just because I didn't agree with you, does not mean I broke the rule of the forum. And I didn't support Mango because our opinion is same but because I thought she was being bullied and thought to let you know the same. No wonder Spicy forum is losing members because they cannot say what they want. If they do, they will be threatened.Now please don't say I attacked you personally. This is my opinion. Before warning me or banning me, let other admins/members who are not biased and are neutral to read my post first. Atleast they might decide if I broke the rule or not. Thanks!

Did you read Mango's post? She was attacking Mai for criticizing Bow.

This is what she said "I was going to stay silent on this matter but I personally think Mai has a personal dislike for Bow. I don't know if you're his fan and is not liking how his wife is mourning him to your liking but bashing his widow is not the way to go. As a moderator of this forum, I'm disappointed in your strong opinion without facts."

How can Mai not take that personally? How was she even bully? Wow talk about having a victim mentality lol

So now we can't even voice out opinion? Opinions are opinions. Why does it have to be fact? At least Bow's action is supporting our claims lol

Edited February 17, 2016 by shampoo

[Mai]

Trust me we are not losing members. Mango vowed not to be back and sure enough she couldn't keep to her word. I didn't call out Mango, she did. I didnt call you out, you did. Who is bullying who here.

My opinion was on Bow. Whereas you girls are attacking me for my opinion. You can chose to ignore opinions on Bow but when I am addressed in a post I'm not going to ignore it.

[shampoo]

I agreed. I read this thread too. Mango was fine with her previous post... Then she came back with that post addressing Mai personally and telling Mai her opinion is too strong without facts. So she's basically telling Mai to shut up because Bow is a widow so we need to respect Bow. Lol

I agree with the ban, if you want to be ban, we can ban you. We are not losing because they can't voice their opinion but because they can't take what we write. When they can't take what we write about these celebrities they start attacking members and staffs here.

[Mai]

This is the part that struck me as aggressive. She will let it slide? What is she going to do next time to me? Internet shock me? Then she instructs me to choose my words wisely if I wanted to continue.

I think you're just shock over his death and is taking your anger out towards his wife, for that I will let it slide. But if you want to continue to comment then choose your words carefully.

I do dislike Bow, not because she's Pors wife, or because he kept her secret and never wanted to acknowledge her, but because of her own actions. Now I wonder why he wanted to keep her a secret. Her actions now makes me wonder.

[honda]

Just because I don't agree with Bow's actions does not mean I don't have sympathy for her loss. To be honest, I don't think the media's main reason for covering her and Mali is in support of her loss but more because it makes them money. If her news didn't sell, I highly doubt that they would be following her like this. Thai ET loves a scandal. Why??? Scandal equals money.

Edited February 17, 2016 by honda

[Lalita]

Mango your opinion u say is positive , but just cause someone doesn't agree to ur side than that gives u the right to personally attack someone ? U said her opinions are not based on facts, but merely based on news, gossip and etc? So how does ur opinion form ? Based on what ? A "star" is a public figure .She made herself public, she wouldn't have made any coverage any news .Without Pors death she wouldn't have made any magazine.So obviously these magazine covers were booked after his death. Don't talk about not attacking others when u are personally attacking someone who is personally reading ur attacks

Raklakorn, U did personally attack her , u said she was rude , u called her a bully, that's a personal attack. Not only was it a personal attack u also attack the forum as well. She's suppose to ignore all ur attacks, who can possibly do that? This is her home turf and u came in looking for a fight . Have some common sense

U asked for other admins to speak up, so don't be saying we are all ganging up on you

[YueRain]

Everyone grieves differently and there could be many reasons why Bow is doing these photo shoots and events. What I don't understand is why Mali is also doing these shoots because she is a child who lost her dad. It's probably a traumatizing and confusing time for her and I'm not sure if posing for magazine covers is going to help her in the long run.

[dhaf]

I highly doubt shes reading at this forum. My comments and other comments saying she should be waiting a little longer than changing her lifestyle from being a secret to being a celebrity, is simply our opinion. But we as the public have the right to judge and give our opinion because she is a public figure. What makes her more special than Clinton, Bush, Obama who has taken criticisms over the year? What makes her so special that shes untouchable? Are we going to her IG to tell her how to live her life? We are not invading her private space.

Just how some are saying we shouldnt tell her how to live her life, which we are not, hence we are at this forum giving our opinions instead of at her IG attacking her....perhaps stop telling us how to live our life, and when to judge and not to judge.

Whats the point in having this forum when you're not allowed to voice your opinions. Obviously some of you disagree with whats being said in this thread, and you're sure not keeping quiet about it, so why is it so hard to accept that some of us will disagree with what shes doing and will also voice our opinions? Please have some common sense.

there is no way for comparison there these are need to be criticized they are running a whole country they must be criticized in every word and decision they do , it's unreasonable to compare bow's case to them it make no sens they are not just a public figure they are person who decide many things witch can change the life of millions people they are no more free in their life , and bow she is just a woman who her husband was an actor and he died what she will do after is up to her if she want do this or that and yes i disagree with your opinion but it's not hard to accept it as i said in my first post she need to face comments like yours as a result for her decision not everyone will understand her or will support her for all her decision , and i believe everyone is entitled to their opinion, you are free to say your opinion but i think (just saying) your are a little harsh and when someone read your comments it feels like bow is a bad woman and she is not a good wife witch i think it not could be like that cause we don't know her personally and she maybe have her own reason and way dealing with things

[Mai]

My point is even the most powerful men in the world are judged on a daily basis so why is it so hard for her fans to accept that she will also face criticism? I have told people over and over, even in some threads I'm not involved in that it's ok to have an opinion on stars, but don't be attacking each other and trying to shut the other person up. We have had this issue in the past where admins and staffs are involved and when we are not, hence why we created that rule back years ago.

I feel like I'm going in circles. If some of you disagree with the comments here and have been politely and rudely vocal about it, then why is it surprising and hard to accept that those that disagree with Bow will also be vocal? It's funny how many are saying I'm harsh yet the same ones are attacking me for my opinions, not actions. I am criticizing Bows actions, but her fans are attacking my opinion. My opinion so far has had her actions to support it. What have I said so far that isn't true? I claimed from the very start that she's not private as everyone is making her out to be. And if she's grieving she's sure not acting it...now her doing photo shoots and random events while bringing her child along with her solidifies my claims. Yes maybe she's crying behind closed doors, so if that's the case, why is it so hard for her to give at least a month before putting her child back in the spotlight? Didn't fans claim she needed time alone away from reporters? I never thought she needed the time out from her actions. Perhaps she is grieving but to most people her coming out like this soon is not portraying that.

She can do whatever she wants with her life, but her actions will be judged like it or not.

[aiyaja]

Oh, Mai...always getting bashed for saying certain things a lot of us are not bold enough to express openly.

You only hate or hold a personal grudge towards someone or something if you loved or cared for it VERY much. I don't think that's the case with Mai at all. As far as I've been active here on Spicy for the past decade or so, Mai has never had anything to say about Por simply because he has never been that popular, that special, or that important for her to talk about or even mention, so why would anyone for that matter believe that Mai has any personal feelings or hatreds towards Por and his wife, Bow?! That's a HUGE assumption and blatantly wrong in so many levels. Haha.

Everyone has an opinion and they're simply entitled to that opinion. Mai happens to represent the other half or third or whatever the ratio may be, who doesn't enjoy watching Bow prance around doing photo shoots and events prematurely. We're not telling her how she should mourn, but there's definitely a more appropriate time to handle media requests especially after such a difficult life changing event. Is that so hard to understand?

If we have something different to say about Por or Bow or anyone from that matter, why do people who disagree with us automatically use the "hate" card? Is there any more valid argument besides that? Because that is the most ignorant comeback anyone can ever come up with. I mean, that is a very closed minded counterattack. Some people genuinely just don't agree with Por for hiding his family to Bow taking on magazines and events like a celebrity WITH absolutely no ill intentions or personal feelings involved. Why? Do we all have to think alike and suppress our opinions? I think we're being pretty courteous exchanging opinions on a public forum versus going onto Instagram like a lot of the Thai netizens and bashing her on her personal account.

I don't agree with Por and Bow, but hey, it is what it is and we move on. The Thai society starting with their entertainment circle has been compromising old fashion morals for a while now. It's very disappointing and disheartening to see how much things have changed for the worse, but oh well. This is life. Perhaps, I'm just an old fashion person who still believes that everyone should be held accountable for honesty even as entertainers and especially about marriage and children, two huge events in life. The secrets don't get any bigger than that. Hahah. I just don't see the damage in being honest in the long run. Anyway, we express our opinions on certain issues because we "can" and we simply move on. It's not like we're obsessed with them now or the drama that follows, trust me, we live in reality. Por and Bow and how they live their lives isn't that important to us, but it just so happened to be a hot topic we threw in a comment or two just like you. It probably took a few minutes out of our day and we leave it at that. We may never return to the topic or follow up on it because it doesn't mean that much to us, really. We simply just move forward without thinking too much or too hard. With that said, just because we disagree with you doesn't mean that we're going to call you a Por and Bow lover or crazy fanatic because that just wouldn't really make sense. We understand that you're probably an adult living in a reality world who just happened to see certain comments you agreed or disagreed with and you wanted to express your opinion and after you do so, you'll continue on with your life normally just like the rest of us. So let's not make this a personal issue among us Spicy members. It's not about us, really. So if we didn't even have the heart to call you a hardcore Por/Bow fan from the history of events then why would Mai hating on them even be valid? Haha.